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#147: 17 Behavior Calls a Day—and What Finally Changed

July 27, 2025 • Season 3 • Episode 147

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If you feel like your days are just putting out one behavior fire after another, this one’s for you.
I sat down with Hunter Flesch, Associate Principal and host of the Ed Essentials Podcast, to talk about how he moved from 17 behavior calls a day (yes, SEVENTEEN) to just five—and did it by redesigning the system, not just responding harder.
We unpack what systems thinking really looks like when the school day feels like chaos—and how a tiered support system for students and teachers can prioritize clarity, data, ownership, and follow-through without burning teachers out.
This episode will remind you that:

You can’t solve systemic problems with walkie-talkie urgency
Behavior data belongs in the hands of teachers
Ownership starts with leaders who believe change is possible by empowering their educators to be leaders

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